Есть ли надежда? Отказ по 221g

Здравствуйте. Кто-нибудь знает, сколько занимает administrative processing, когда получена форма 221(g)?

В Штатах учился по визе Ф1 с начала 2006 года. В августе 2008 получил H1B. 22 декабря прилетели на Украину, 23 декабря утром были в консульстве в Киеве на интервью. Консул забрал паспорта, анкеты, по три раза всё переспрашивал. Потом сказал, что дело идет на administrative processing. От себя добавил, чтобы мы не переживали, всё будет нормально и визы будут подтверждены через 4-5 недель. Еще он сказал, что эта проблема возникла из-за того, что мы участвовали в лотерее DV, но в графе анкеты, где спрашивалось, пытались ли мы изменить статус, ответили, что не пытались. С тех пор прошло уже почти три месяца, ответа все нет. В консульство писал я и мой американский начальник. Ответ был один и тот же: мы проверяем статус вашего дела каждый день, как только будет получен ответ, мы вам сообщим. В последний раз они обнадёжили, написав, что сражу же выдадут визы, как только получат разрешение.
10 дней назад начальник меня убедил заплатить за американского адвоката, которая направила петиции в консульство и Department of State или USCIS. По крайней мере, пока они не ответили такой же отговоркой.
Скажите, кто-нибудь сталкивался с такой проблемой? Какова вероятность отказа/положительного ответа? Может быть, кто-нибудь знает, сколько обычно занимает этот процесс? Можно ли на них как-то повлиять? Вообще, буду благодарен за любую информацию.

Сам нашел ответ на этом же форуме по адресу: http://www.govorimpro.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10022&page=22
Так как ссылки на форумах сбиваются время от времени, привожу ответ:

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Published by

Gary Chodorow
on March 8, 2009
in Visas Mantis Security Advisory Opinion (SAO).

Visas Mantis SAO processing times have risen to 12-14 weeks, causing disruptions in the lives of travelers planning to enter the U.S. on nonimmigrant visas. For example, many students and temporary workers who returned home for vacation during Christmas 2008 are still awaiting their visas to return to school and work.

This SAO is a security check to ensure that science and technology students and professionals seeking U.S. visas aren’t likely to try to illegally export U.S. technologies. The last time Visas Mantis SAOs were so long was after 9-11, when the U.S. government struggled to update and plug holes in the SAO system.

http://lawandborder.com/?cat=4

average wait of 4 months

Folks, I got an email from our company lawyer today. He had called up DOS and the lady with whom he spoke in detail said that the current average delay is 4 months starting from the date of the interview!

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4 months seems logical

The 4 month wait (for people who interviewed in late Nov) seems logical… the clearance time has been steadily increasing. People who got cleared in mid-Nov had waited for ~8 weeks, while those cleared in early Feb had waited for ~12 weeks. With this extrapolation, someone who interviewed in late Jan or Feb could wait for 6+ months.

My lawyer also said that there is NOTHING that can be done besides waiting. All information relating to security check is confidential. So Gandhigiri is utterly useless too. The Consulate doesn’t know what the Department of State is doing, and the Department of State doesn’t know what the numerous agencies (responsible for security check) are doing. And one agency doesn’t know what the other is doing, they just do their job. If someone got a clearance just after their lawyer inquired, it’s coincidence.

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I agree with the part you said about nothing can be done to expedite the process. I work for a National Lab and have a co-worker from China stuck for 3 months and waiting. His Supervisor is extremely well connected with Congressmen/Senator/DHS and has been trying to check the status and expedite the case but has been totally unsuccessful.

The process is probably the way you outlined it, a black box. So, nothing can be done but wait…

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I called chennai consulate today, lady was kind enough to look into my case and all. After looking, she said it is not updated. She asked me to wait for an update and not to contact consulate quite often. There is no time frame and all. 	
	


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103 days today and still waiting. All our statistical calculations have been skewed (an screwed) by DoS!!! As per our calculations 104 days was the outer limit. 	
	


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Other thing is nearly 101 cases cleared in March 3 update...50% or more of them are recent ones..are they preferring the ones after Dec or are they different cases??

Have they forgotten people from Nov and Dec 2008??

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I contacted DOS today. I was told that my case is 'pending' and that they started processing my application on 5th December (interview at ND on 1st December and docs submitted on 2nd). When I asked if I can get an approximate date of decision, the lady told me that she don't know because "they won't tell us". I guess she was referring to the other agencies who actually do the processing. 	
	

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Hi guys!

Found this forum via google. Actually I’m from Russia and I was wonder what is going on with this ridiculous processing.
Looks like we have the same **** all around the world. Delays are everywhere: in Moscow, Warsaw even in Seoul.
I’ve been waiting for over than 100 days and I know guys who’s been waiting even longer.

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Interview Date : Nov 12th, 2008

Docs Sent : Nov 17th, 2008, Ack received same day
Docs Received : Nov 21st (Assuming 4 bus. days)
Qualification: Ph.D in Biochemistry (US)
Job : Postdoc

I have stopped counting days , i think its been more than 17 weeks now, i dont know if this is going to end anytime soon.

I did not post any in the forum for the past weeks because i feel depressed every time i have to post my status as pending process, anyway i hope some of November folks got clearances.

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I just now spoke with a DOS officer regarding my wife's status..here's what she said "this is very normal...it is taking an average of 4 months ..." ... 	
	

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Planning a Petition

We are planning to write a petition to various Governmental Agencies (DOS, USCIS, GAO), Lawmakers (President, Secretary of State, other involved Senators and Representatives), Universities (Deans and Heads of Departments), Funding agencies (NIH, DOD, NASA), Newspapers about the delay in the 221g TAL processing and how its affecting the National Interests of the US. Please, Please make an effort to join the 221g TAL group by Visal Thapar on “Chehera Kitab” (translate to English). We are compiling a list of all the people there and posting as many cases on it will be very valuable and make the petition impactful.

Suggestions to make this better organized are most welcome.

Какие выводы?

  1. Думаю не стоит беспокоить если вы ждёте меньше 4 месяцев (+ время на отсылку доков в консульство). Не стоит нервировать консульство особо. Проследить на какой стадии находится проверка они не могут. В процессе - и всё.

  2. Ситуация замедлилась не только у нас, но и в целом везде.

Ya kogda F1 poluchal, tozhe zhdal, 6 nedel’.
Kogda vi poluchali F1, u vas tozhe bill etot check? Kak dolgo?

Я получил F1 без задержек. Это было еще в 2005 осенью.

U menya major po physics, kak tolko konsul uvidel eto slovo v moix dokax, srazu vlepil 221(g), skazal chto eto texnicheskiy otkaz, tipa zaderzhka iz-za nedostatka info dlya prinyatiya resheniya, to-est’ visa case ne zakrili, a prosto zhdali poka donesu vse doki. Kogda dones, togda oni i zafaylili etot administrative check i tozhe skazali chtobi ne volnovalis’, kogda vse proveryat, srazu vinesut reshenie. Cherez 6 nedel’ dali F1, skazali chto pro pri podachi na buduschie vizi etot 221(g) ne nuzhno upominat’ kak otkaz v vidache vizi. Eto bilo vesnoy 2005.
Ya znau sluchay kogda chuvak s Irana tozhe s H1B statusom poexal domoy, visu zhdal bolee goda.
Kitayka na F1, student po chemistry, 3 months zhdala visu, vse leto 2007 prosidela v China.
U nas v labe indusi sidyat v USA na H1B bezvilazno, since F1.

Kakoy u vas major po kotoromu vi podali na H1B visu?
Za skolko vremeni vi smenili status F1->H1B?

У меня Major Computer Science - same as for F1. На F1 я был 2,5 года. Сменил статус в 2008. С момента отправки петиции до момента получения прошло месяца 4. Конечно, сидеть в штатах можно безвылазно, если знать, что будет, но так долго тоже продолжаться не может. Всё-таки, домой тянет. Если бы я знал, что такая фигня может подстеречь, конечно посидел бы еще год-два, но не больше :slight_smile: