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    First of all we gotta decide whether we're going to speak American English or original version of it which is Britain. Abappy's English is half/half, although I think it tends to be more proper which is Britain.
    Since most of us leave in US and not England, I'd stick to American version but of course it's all up to you.

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    Re: Практикуемся в английском

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    First of all we gotta decide whether we're going to speak American English or original version of it which is Britain. Abappy's English is half/half, although I think it tends to be more proper which is Britain.
    Since most of us leave in US and not England, I'd stick to American version but of course it's all up to you.
    Hi Andy,

    from my point of view we shouldn't oversimplify things and use version of language from "IM or street". 100% of people understand you well, if you're saying "have to or got to", but all wanna gotta etc. are not obvious to the same amount of people, so they shoulda be dropped

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    Hi Andy,

    from my point of view we shouldn't oversimplify things and use version of language from "IM or street". 100% of people understand you well, if you're saying "have to or got to", but all wanna gotta etc. are not obvious to the same amount of people, so they shoulda be dropped
    I have to disagree, in real life it's not the way it is. Everybody understands "wanna", "gotta", there is nothing wrong with it. Of course, unless you work for the government or in some prestigious company where you have to wear suits and ties or you're a writer you might want to use proper language, other than that casual (or street if you will) is what you need.
    When I just came to States I was talking like that (words like therefore, more over, shall etc), my co-workers were making fun of me saying that I have to teach them how to speak in proper (literature) language. Yes, everyone understood me but it sounded rather wrong even though it was right.
    My opinion is that you WANT to simplify it when you talk to other people. Why would you want to make your life harder trying to talk like Shakespeare?
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    I have to disagree, in real life it's not the way it is. Everybody understands "wanna", "gotta", there is nothing wrong with it. Of course, unless you work for the government or in some prestigious company where you have to wear suits and ties or you're a writer you might want to use proper language, other than that casual (or street if you will) is what you need.
    Andy, I agree with you that everyone need to know how to use those words, I argue about the sequence of learning. First you need to learn proper variant of the language, and only after that you should learn the rest.

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    When I just came to States I was talking like that (words like therefore, more over, shall etc), my co-workers were making fun of me saying that I have to teach them how to speak in proper (literature) language. Yes, everyone understood me but it sounded rather wrong even though it was right.
    Did any of those jokes harm you in any way ? Or perhaps your language even was a source of some respect ?

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    My opinion is that you WANT to simplify it when you talk to other people.
    Maybe. There is no reason in keeping it complex. But there is obvious reason in being able to do it "if needed".

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    Why would you want to make your life harder trying to talk like Shakespeare?
    Oh c'mon ... you wish.

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    Did any of those jokes harm you in any way ? Or perhaps your language even was a source of some respect ?
    No, definitely did not harm me. They were just joking as they were my friends. Something like "his language is funny, I should start talking like that too, would you teach me? "

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    Maybe. There is no reason in keeping it complex. But there is obvious reason in being able to do it "if needed".
    To be honest, for 5 years I've been living in US, I've never had a chance to use the "right" language... or let me put it this way - I was never required and even never "needed" to talk differently, not the way I do now.

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    Oh c'mon ... you wish.

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    that's funny

    In any case, let's just drop it as it can go on and on and let's just listen what others have to say in this topic.
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    No, definitely did not harm me. They were just joking as they were my friends. Something like "his language is funny, I should start talking like that too, would you teach me? "
    That's exactly what I expected. It means that any approach is possible and neither one will harm "young user" .

    Цитата Сообщение от Andy. Посмотреть сообщение
    To be honest, for 5 years I've been living in US, I've never had a chance to use the "right" language... or let me put it this way - I was never required and even never "needed" to talk differently, not the way I do now.
    Andy. - life is really different for every one of us, I have a huge need to be able to speak much more formal language than my current 50/50 and it's extremely difficult to achieve


    Цитата Сообщение от Andy. Посмотреть сообщение
    In any case, let's just drop it as it can go on and on and let's just listen what others have to say in this topic.
    We shouldn't drop anything, as any discussion on any topic is welcome here, but I agree to stop for a while to allow somebody who is shy enought for direct interference to step in

    NB. Sorry for all the typos and spelling errors

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    for 5 years I've been living in US, I've never had a chance to use the "right" language...
    I wonder if it's true and native speakers would say like this.
    Mb it's not so important in USA (I dunno), but I suppose if u had to use "right" language it'd sound like :
    "I've been living in US for 5 years and I've never had a chance to use the "right" language..." =)
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    I wonder if it's true and native speakers would say like this.
    Mb it's not so important in USA (I dunno), but I suppose if u had to use "right" language it'd sound like :
    "I've been living in US for 5 years and I've never had a chance to use the "right" language..." =)
    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    As Andy said - american english isn't strict at all. So

    "for five years [that] I've been living in [the] US[A]" sounds good enough for everyone , but you are right, and your version looks better

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    ..sounds good enough for everyone ...
    Oh. Thanx. U've just taken off that huge millstone that I've been hanging round my neck for years. I mean now I don't doubt that I'll be understood by natives But the little feeling that my words will be heard by them sometimes like in russian we hear from such funny guyz like "Ровшан и Джамшут" still remains.... :-D

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    from my point of view we shouldn't oversimplify things and use version of language from "IM or street".
    It's not an IM or street language, as you call it. Those words are actually pretty standard in the US nowadays, unless it's written English. Hell, I've seen Obama use "gonna" quite often in his oral speech.

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